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Wasn't a second T&NGR book planned at some point :rolleyes: I forget now ...
Can someone clear this up for me? Did I miss something or did the idea just get canned or back-burner-ed?

As for whether they should be revamped I would definitely say I would like to see it.

We all must remember that The NGR is locked in The War of Ages and has been since 104PA (roughly since WB5, as it picks up around that time, the Fall of 103PA). For the most part I know war breeds innovation in military , but this is also dependent on resources and what is needed to destroy ones enemies, rarely are cosmetic changes made to war equipment, and I would say the NGR looks at it that way too. Not saying it wouldn't happen just saying I doubt it. To me the NGR wouldn't care as much as long as it was functional and would suggest that anyone wanting their suit to look different should seek an after market retailer overseas as they don't have the time to fool with it, just an opinion though ;)

All in all, yes I would like to see some new stuff from the NGR :D but I think it should primarily deal with weapon systems, speed, and/or capabilities that make their existing lines of R&PA's more suitable for battling their own enemies. I mean heck 6 years of war should produce some new stuff and existing suits would definitely recieve a few modifications to my way of thinking :ok:
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Chaos wrote:Wasn't a second T&NGR book planned at some point :rolleyes: I forget now ...
Can someone clear this up for me? Did I miss something or did the idea just get canned or back-burner-ed?


Galactus Kid is still writing it. I don't think the announcement that it is being done is a year old yet. GK has been involved in a few other projects since then as well.
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Dustin Fireblade wrote:
Chaos wrote:Wasn't a second T&NGR book planned at some point :rolleyes: I forget now ...
Can someone clear this up for me? Did I miss something or did the idea just get canned or back-burner-ed?


Galactus Kid is still writing it. I don't think the announcement that it is being done is a year old yet. GK has been involved in a few other projects since then as well.


Thank you, I thought maybe I was crazy and had dreamed it all up :D
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Chaos wrote:
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Chaos wrote:Wasn't a second T&NGR book planned at some point :rolleyes: I forget now ...
Can someone clear this up for me? Did I miss something or did the idea just get canned or back-burner-ed?


Galactus Kid is still writing it. I don't think the announcement that it is being done is a year old yet. GK has been involved in a few other projects since then as well.


Thank you, I thought maybe I was crazy and had dreamed it all up :D


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They've been talking about Traix 2 since the first one came out. lol. I don't know about when it was asigned to Gkid or what ever but the book itself has been proposed for much longer than one year.
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I'm working on it. You all will be pleasantly surprised. It should be done within a couple of months and on its way to Palladium HOPEFULLY for a summer release.

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The revamps I want to see in the next Triax book is shoulder stocks on all rifles and a sniping laser that is not inferior in range to the JA-9.

The reson I want to see shoulder stocks on Triax rifles is the simple fact that hip shooting is very inaccurate. One summer I went out every day off with my riot shotgun and a 250 round case of shells to practice. With the shoulder stock attached I could hit anything within 50 yards. with just the pistol grip attached I had difficulty hitting at over 7 yards. Now I know that a 12 gauge shotgun has about as much recoil as a .375 H&H big game rifle, still recoil does not effect ones aim on that first shot.

Triax is outside of Japan the worlds most advanced native nation. you would think that a country that advanced would have studied the methods of the best combat soldiers they had and used shoulder stocks.

As for the TX-11 and it's very short range. at the official 1,600 foot (488M) range it's shorter ranged than the Triax issue Infantry Laser Rifle. Maybe that's why they are being sold to North America...(Grumbles). As for the JA-9 it is officially a Pre-Rifts German design (RGMG,p. 144.) witha 4,000 foot (1,219m) range. this is comparable to the effective range of the .300 Winchester Magnum chambered Remington M-700P(DM) Police Sniper rifle that I personally own. I know that Triax Lost alot of Technology, but the JA-9 is still being made so I would think that Triax could at least make something with similar capabilities.

Just my personal gripes with Triax. Take them with a grain of salt.
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I'd like to see something that, at least stylistically, matches the move toward cooler artwork.

While I enjoyed the artwork of Long, it lacked the "kick you in the face" factor that some of the newer CS stuff possesses...
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Rockwolf66 wrote:The revamps I want to see in the next Triax book is shoulder stocks on all rifles and a sniping laser that is not inferior in range to the JA-9.



I went ahead and made the JA series as the standard Triax weapons. I don't see any reason why the NGR would accept inferior weaponry for its soldier's and I see no reason why JA are called "Juicer Assasin" or should be limited to Juicer's.
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Dustin Fireblade wrote:
Chaos wrote:Wasn't a second T&NGR book planned at some point :rolleyes: I forget now ...
Can someone clear this up for me? Did I miss something or did the idea just get canned or back-burner-ed?


Galactus Kid is still writing it. I don't think the announcement that it is being done is a year old yet. GK has been involved in a few other projects since then as well.


Galactus kid (Brandon Aten) and Taylor white are both writing it.
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Rockwolf66 wrote:The revamps I want to see in the next Triax book is shoulder stocks on all rifles and a sniping laser that is not inferior in range to the JA-9.



I went ahead and made the JA series as the standard Triax weapons. I don't see any reason why the NGR would accept inferior weaponry for its soldier's and I see no reason why JA are called "Juicer Assasin" or should be limited to Juicer's.


I just said that they had folding stocks like on the Spas-12 or they could get a more solid one mounted for an extra charge.
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Nxla666 wrote:
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Rockwolf66 wrote:The revamps I want to see in the next Triax book is shoulder stocks on all rifles and a sniping laser that is not inferior in range to the JA-9.



I went ahead and made the JA series as the standard Triax weapons. I don't see any reason why the NGR would accept inferior weaponry for its soldier's and I see no reason why JA are called "Juicer Assasin" or should be limited to Juicer's.


I just said that they had folding stocks like on the Spas-12 or they could get a more solid one mounted for an extra charge.


Yeah, that could be done easily enough. NGR soldiers need all the firepower they can get, however, and a JA-12 is better than a TX-42
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dark brandon wrote:
Dustin Fireblade wrote:
Chaos wrote:Wasn't a second T&NGR book planned at some point :rolleyes: I forget now ...
Can someone clear this up for me? Did I miss something or did the idea just get canned or back-burner-ed?


Galactus Kid is still writing it. I don't think the announcement that it is being done is a year old yet. GK has been involved in a few other projects since then as well.


Galactus kid (Brandon Aten) and Taylor white are both writing it.


Didn't mean any slight by the exclusion.
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The Galactus Kid wrote:I'm working on it. You all will be pleasantly surprised. It should be done within a couple of months and on its way to Palladium HOPEFULLY for a summer release.

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I'll autograph it with your own blood. That makes it special. hahaha.

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vampire_hunter_D wrote:I'm hoping for just one change: That they stop showing bots with "NGR" written on them

That' is not how you abreviate that in German. it should be NDR.

Just a little something that irks me about the original lol


Yeah, I've been saying it that way for years...
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vampire_hunter_D wrote:I'm hoping for just one change: That they stop showing bots with "NGR" written on them

That' is not how you abreviate that in German. it should be NDR.

Just a little something that irks me about the original lol


You just reminded me of the moment when a a freind of mine who had bad eyes and refused to wear her glasses saw one of the bot pictures and flipped out.

She saw the "N", "G", and "R" and immediately filled in the supposed blanks, it took about 15 minutes to calm her down and get her to put her glasses on and actually look at the picture.
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I REFUSE to laugh at that...
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NGR Black Knight... did she think that was redundant?

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Nxla666 wrote:She saw the "N", "G", and "R" and immediately filled in the supposed blanks, it took about 15 minutes to calm her down and get her to put her glasses on and actually look at the picture.


*chuckle* Just read on another board about a Jewish player who left the game because his character... a gnome... was served pork in-game.

The GM ruled that the character spontaneously combusted.
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vampire_hunter_D wrote:I'm hoping for just one change: That they stop showing bots with "NGR" written on them

That' is not how you abreviate that in German. it should be NDR.

Just a little something that irks me about the original lol


keep in ming that euro is a amalgam of all European languages, so NGR could stand for new dutcheland republic...
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Sheesh all you NDR people aren't you aware that in 2057 the NDR changed their name to (N)ew (G)iant (R)obotics :rolleyes: seriously come on they taught us that in 1st grade, The CS and the rest of the world just assumed it stood for (N)ew (G)erman (R)epublic ;)
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First off, I will say that I don't know german. I can read it aloud with pretty good diction (thank you BA in humanities :roll: ) but I don't know what I'm saying. I will get someone who knows german to check it.

Secondly, Pre-Rifts German and Euro is spoken. Euro is the official language and spoken by most. Now Euro is not a real language and no one on the boards can speak it, so NGR just might be right. Then again, there may also be people in the NGR who refuse to give in to the Euro language and only speak pre-rifts german and have NDR on their robots. Who knows.
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The Galactus Kid wrote:Secondly, Pre-Rifts German and Euro is spoken. Euro is the official language and spoken by most. Now Euro is not a real language and no one on the boards can speak it, so NGR just might be right. Then again, there may also be people in the NGR who refuse to give in to the Euro language and only speak pre-rifts german and have NDR on their robots. Who knows.


Thats my reasoning for all of the other irregularities in foreign languages people love to pick on. It's the future in an alternate reality, of course languages won't correspond 100% to our real world versions of the same.
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The Galactus Kid wrote:First off, I will say that I don't know german. I can read it aloud with pretty good diction (thank you BA in humanities :roll: ) but I don't know what I'm saying. I will get someone who knows german to check it.

Secondly, Pre-Rifts German and Euro is spoken. Euro is the official language and spoken by most. Now Euro is not a real language and no one on the boards can speak it, so NGR just might be right. Then again, there may also be people in the NGR who refuse to give in to the Euro language and only speak pre-rifts german and have NDR on their robots. Who knows.


My mother and ex-girlfriend are both fluent in german, e-mail me everything you have written and I will get it checked.
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you can bet that will be happening.
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Dustin Fireblade wrote:
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Chaos wrote:Wasn't a second T&NGR book planned at some point :rolleyes: I forget now ...
Can someone clear this up for me? Did I miss something or did the idea just get canned or back-burner-ed?


Galactus Kid is still writing it. I don't think the announcement that it is being done is a year old yet. GK has been involved in a few other projects since then as well.


Galactus kid (Brandon Aten) and Taylor white are both writing it.


Didn't mean any slight by the exclusion.


Naw, he doesn't read the boards much, but he says people easily forget there were 2 authers for Madhaven and that there are 2 authers working on Triax 2, he asked me to just keep an eye when I see it. Being he's my best friend, I do it.
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I think that the fan support the project of Triax 2 is getting combined with the excellent writing team working on it will make sure that this book is published this year.
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dark brandon wrote:Naw, he doesn't read the boards much, but he says people easily forget there were 2 authers for Madhaven and that there are 2 authers working on Triax 2, he asked me to just keep an eye when I see it. Being he's my best friend, I do it.

Yeah, with Jason Richards and Taylor White working on Triax 2, it's going to ROCK!

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Yeah once Special K Edits out all the girly stuff Richards inevitably writes in her books Triax 2 will defiantly rock.
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vampire_hunter_D wrote:I'm hoping for just one change: That they stop showing bots with "NGR" written on them

That' is not how you abreviate that in German. it should be NDR.

Just a little something that irks me about the original lol


Actually, as Euro is the more predominant (IIRC) language, it would stay as NGR.

Especially considering the diversity of recruits from surrounding regions that flock to the NGR, or have sought shelter there for generations.

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rat_bastard wrote:I think that the fan support the project of Triax 2 is getting combined with the excellent writing team working on it will make sure that this book is published this year.


From what I understand both are working on it pretty hard right now.

I actually have a pretty funny story about when they were asking my opinion about some things and I pointed out something at which they replied

"....(long pause)...shut-up brandon, we're writing the books..."

I can't say what exactly, but I got a laugh out of it.
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Josh Sinsapaugh wrote:Actually, as Euro is the more predominant (IIRC) language, it would stay as NGR.

Especially considering the diversity of recruits from surrounding regions that flock to the NGR, or have sought shelter there for generations.


I doubt it, Josh.

Euro is a combination of Polish, German, and Russian. German for Germany is, of course, Deutschland. Polish for Germany is Niemcy; for German is niemiecki. Russian for Germany is Германия; for German is По-немецки.

None of these is going to result in a G standing for a Neues Deutsches Republik.
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but you are not factoring the incredible cultural influence north America has on other nations after we elect George "W" Bush Prezident of amerika for life and make all them foreign folk speak American. Just before Prez "W" orders all the world scientists to complete the Flood the world with magic energy project that will have absolutely no repercussions. Its NGR because thats what America says!
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Josh Sinsapaugh wrote:Actually, as Euro is the more predominant (IIRC) language, it would stay as NGR.

Especially considering the diversity of recruits from surrounding regions that flock to the NGR, or have sought shelter there for generations.


I doubt it, Josh.

Euro is a combination of Polish, German, and Russian. German for Germany is, of course, Deutschland. Polish for Germany is Niemcy; for German is niemiecki. Russian for Germany is Германия; for German is По-немецки.

None of these is going to result in a G standing for a Neues Deutsches Republik.


A combination of those languages, yes, but nowhere does it state that it is a pure-combination (i.e. one word is from one language, the next from another, et cetera).

So, unless one of us can speak Euro, the argument still stands.

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Josh Sinsapaugh wrote:A combination of those languages, yes, but nowhere does it state that it is a pure-combination (i.e. one word is from one language, the next from another, et cetera).

So, unless one of us can speak Euro, the argument still stands.


So your argument is that "It's G on the robots because it's G in Euro, which it must be because it's G on the robots"?

Do you drive on those arguments? Do you get good gas mileage? Cause like the wheels on the bus, they go round and round. ;-)
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MrNexx wrote:
Josh Sinsapaugh wrote:A combination of those languages, yes, but nowhere does it state that it is a pure-combination (i.e. one word is from one language, the next from another, et cetera).

So, unless one of us can speak Euro, the argument still stands.


So your argument is that "It's G on the robots because it's G in Euro, which it must be because it's G on the robots"?

Do you drive on those arguments? Do you get good gas mileage? Cause like the wheels on the bus, they go round and round. ;-)


Great gas mileage, they're practically hybrids.

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speaking of which, is anybody writing an upcoming book going to do anything about fuel cells?
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No offense to our fellow PB players in Europe but...

Its a product of the United States of America...

The "G" stays. :P
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hahaha NXLA for the win.
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The Galactus Kid wrote:hahaha NXLA for the win.


Thank you. :ok:


Now, get back to work on the book! :badbad:


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Maybe a late reply to the topic but IIRC English is taught as a second language in all those countries schools at the moment. So to my way of thinking with all those different languages in there, well the Deutschland melting pot would need a language that would be recognized easily by all and with English being a common language (even as a secondary) between them, it only makes sense that Euro would actually have a smattering of English terms in there as well.

Theres my 2 cents beat it to a pulp or make your friend and ...

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It sounds great GalactusKid! I'm looking forwrd to getting my hands on it!
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Nxla666 wrote:No offense to our fellow PB players in Europe but...

Its a product of the United States of America...

The "G" stays. :P


The G stay, but stand for Germania.
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The Galactus Kid wrote:I'm working on it. You all will be pleasantly surprised. It should be done within a couple of months and on its way to Palladium HOPEFULLY for a summer release.

:?


Can you say if you have more (new) Cyborg Troopers models for the NGR/Triax ??
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New Grand Republic

I always thought "Germany" was weird.

Though i'd rather rename the whole thing. No counties mentioned at all.
Come up with something original...

Republic is cool. That part makes sense.

the (N) and the (G) doesnt...

New Grand Republic makes more sense than New German Republic though.

Too many "Fatherlands" and "Motherlands" in europe. Each in their native language though, and called something else in another language because if translated right would have the same or near same name as Your country... :lol:

Heck TRIAX Republic would be perfect...

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TechnoGothic wrote:Can you say if you have more (new) Cyborg Troopers models for the NGR/Triax ??


No I can't. Sorry.
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Neue GroBartig Republik?

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Kryzbyn wrote:Neue GroBartig Republik?

:shock:


ok, loosen the nobs in your skull Kryzbyn.
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