The Lazlo Agency from BTS in CE?

[RockJock]

I don't use it currently, but I think it is a great idea. I use most of the secret socities from Nightbane as well as the Lazlo Agency in my HU games.


I would think they would still be relatively small and not taken seriously until the coming of the rifts. Afterwards whatever is left would join NEMA as experts, try to defend and protect their local town and so on.

[Josh Sinsapaugh]

The way I have it is that their membership declined more and more as technology became more advanced, so that when 2098 came around, their organization had few numbers...and ultimately perished in the Great Cataclysm and during the following Dark Ages.

~ Josh

[Tinker Dragoon]

Then who founds the city of Lazlo?

[JTwig]

Then who founds the city of Lazlo?

The city of Lazlo is named after Victor Lazlo whose writing is rediscovered, and his full genius recognized, after the coming of the Rifts. I don't think anyone from his orginization had anything to do with the founding of the city. According to BTS1 Victor disappears sometime in the late 80's while investigating an indian mound.

[Josh Sinsapaugh]

Then who founds the city of Lazlo?

The city of Lazlo is named after Victor Lazlo whose writing is rediscovered, and his full genius recognized, after the coming of the Rifts. I don't think anyone from his orginization had anything to do with the founding of the city. According to BTS1 Victor disappears sometime in the late 80's while investigating an indian mound.

Bingo, Lazlo is named after Victor when Erin Tarn introduces his writings to the people of the Free State.

Lalo was not founded by people from the Agency or Society.

~ Josh

[Josh Sinsapaugh]

According to the writings of Kevin him self, he has always thought of earth from BTS as the Rifts earth of the 40s & 50s so to answer the question of did the Lazlo agency exist in Chaos earth id have to say definitely
If were really lucky maybe Kevin will read this thread and have some one write a source book for the Chaos Earth Lazlo Agency

However, when he wrote Chaos Earth he changed that view.

Chaos Earth (and via association Rifts Earth) is an amalagation of BTS, HU and even pre-Flash ATB: the future of all of those worlds and none of those worlds at the exact same time.

~ Josh

[Shawn Merrow]

According to the writings of Kevin him self, he has always thought of earth from BTS as the Rifts earth of the 40s & 50s so to answer the question of did the Lazlo agency exist in Chaos earth id have to say definitely
If were really lucky maybe Kevin will read this thread and have some one write a source book for the Chaos Earth Lazlo Agency

As of Rifter #2 Kevin said BtS is not the past of Rifts Earth.

[Josh Sinsapaugh]

As of Rifter #2 Kevin said BtS is not the past of Rifts Earth.

Makes things a bit tangly, though, since the description of Victor Lazlo in Rifts: Africa says that Victor's convinced that Rifts Earth is the world he knew, 'cos of his Chiang-Ku friend still stickin' around. Does that mean that there was a separate Victor Lazlo for Rifts (and a separate Hwang-Li or whatever his name was)?

Is it even possible to have dragons from parallel universes? I thought they didn't have copies in other worlds 'cos they were natural dimensional travelers and didn't leave so strong a magical cross-signature as a human.

Yes.

Technically, there are infinite parallel universes with a parallel version of each person within...hence that one Temporal Spell: Id Self(?).

So, it is perfectly feasible to get swept up by a dimensional anomaly and end up in a dimension where everyone is you.

~ Josh

[Aramanthus]

I'll have to place it in there. Great idea! Thanks for it!

[Aramanthus]

That's a good agrument for it Sir Ysbadden! I agree with you!

[Aramanthus]

It makes total sense that it is the same person.

[tenakafurey]

Here's an essay I did for the Palladium FAQ that I've not updated in 4 years (I REALLY need to get around to updating it, but I need to get caught up on all Palladium products first - currently lagging well behind)

Neat theory.

I prefer the one universe setup myself…..

Basically, one timeline in which most of palladiums universes can be placed.

So, we have Recon in the 1960s, leading to BTS and HU. SF could also be worked in there circa 2000, though I prefer to place RoboTech and, 80 years later, Macross II (for those that want to include them), all leading up to the Golden Age of humanity and the inevitable crash, leading to CE and RIFTS. ATB can even be placed up there, just before RT starts.

EJL

[Juankis]

Well, according to Mindwerks, there still was a Lazlo Agency shortly before the Cataclysm, as Mindwerks used to work with them to make devices for the study of parapsychology.

[Jefffar]

Rifts, at the start, was to be Kevin's dark future for BTS, he's said as such.

He's also said that as he developed the concepts, the Heroes Unlimited world is a more likely start point (Chaos Earth Century Station anyone?).


Then you get people like me, where my HU is my N&Ss, is my TMNT, is my BTS.

So it doens't really matter if he's coming from BTS or HU to me, it's all the same Earth.

[tmikesecrist3]

Heres my 2 cents, I seem to be makeing a lot of posts lol

any way, to the point I dont think the lazlo agency sirvied in that form past the 90s it I think became the lazlo society, and yes I could see that still existing in some form to the comeing of the rifts, but, as its members lost contact, being a globe net work, with the disrption of cumucations, I can not see it sruviveing the appaclaips, sorry folk, now I have no doubt that its members, would have contuned doing there thing, there effectiveness would not be what it once was, as thay could not pool there information any more

[Sir Neil]

According to Rifts Africa, Lo Fung was a key force in maintaining the Lazlo Agency. He had advance warning of the Coming of the Rifts, enabling a number of his followers to survive the Great Cataclysm.

[exiled_snow]

Yes.

Technically, there are infinite parallel universes with a parallel version of each person within...hence that one Temporal Spell: Id Self(?).

So, it is perfectly feasible to get swept up by a dimensional anomaly and end up in a dimension where everyone is you.

~ Josh

or where everyone IS Jason Richards...

[Jay05]

Personally I fall back on the theory that the seperate dimensions exist on different "frequencies". Thus the closer the frequencies the more dimensional bleed. Thus the Lazlo society (BTS)Existing on the (Pre Rifts earth) Leading to that world's Lo Fung's Experiences And the KLS corp (From HU) being if I remember correctly the creators of Glitterboy tech.

As an aside, I've always thought the idea of a long term campaign where each plays two (or more if they can handle it) Alternate versions of their character from different dimensions. Thus A guy who's a paranormal investigator in BTS is say a Wampyr in NB, a Dedicated Martial artist in N&SS And a Mutant in HU2

[Jay05]

Personally I fall back on the theory that the seperate dimensions exist on different "frequencies". Thus the closer the frequencies the more dimensional bleed. Thus the Lazlo society (BTS)Existing on the (Pre Rifts earth) Leading to that world's Lo Fung's Experiences And the KLS corp (From HU) being if I remember correctly the creators of Glitterboy tech.

As an aside, I've always thought the idea of a long term campaign where each plays two (or more if they can handle it) Alternate versions of their character from different dimensions. Thus A guy who's a paranormal investigator in BTS is say a Wampyr in NB, a Dedicated Martial artist in N&SS And a Mutant in HU2

that sounds so cool, a great idea.

Thanks justicar5. I thought so. If I were a better gm lol, I'd run the bugger myself!

[Kagashi]

In my mind, BTS is the prequel to Chaos Earth, which is the prequel to Rifts. So, yes, I use em in my personal history.

I like Josh's take on it, by the time 2098 rolls around, they are not much of players in the world.