Robotech Cannon or Macross Cannon?

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Re: Robotech Cannon or Macross Cannon?

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Ninjapuppy wrote:How closely do GMs follow Robotech Cannon? or do You fire your Macross cannon and blow it all to bits?


Depends on if I want to play Robotech or Macross. If I am playing a Macross campaign then I'll use Macross Canon, if it's Robotech then I'll use Robotech canon. Unless of course you want to talk about he projet I just started based on a another thread that will link mechanoids, manhunter, robotech and macross altogether into one big canonical mess :D
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*Watches the blender be set to 'mashup' *
Ow, that's gonna leave a mark :D
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DhAkael wrote:*Watches the blender be set to 'mashup' *
Ow, that's gonna leave a mark :D


Fold, Spindle, Mutilate, and Puree works just fine with me when it comes to mixing the two up...

Any purist wants to complain, they're free to stick their hand in the blender and pull their stuff out...
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Re: Robotech Cannon or Macross Cannon?

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taalismn wrote:
DhAkael wrote:*Watches the blender be set to 'mashup' *
Ow, that's gonna leave a mark :D


Fold, Spindle, Mutilate, and Puree works just fine with me when it comes to mixing the two up...

Any purist wants to complain, they're free to stick their hand in the blender and pull their stuff out...



heh the purist is going to reach into the puree..... :D
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But will they get their hand back out, is the question?
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taalismn wrote:But will they get their hand back out, is the question?



Well they will..........the REAL question is will it be a hand anymore? :P
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jaymz wrote:
taalismn wrote:
DhAkael wrote:*Watches the blender be set to 'mashup' *
Ow, that's gonna leave a mark :D


Fold, Spindle, Mutilate, and Puree works just fine with me when it comes to mixing the two up...

Any purist wants to complain, they're free to stick their hand in the blender and pull their stuff out...



heh the purist is going to reach into the puree..... :D

Reminds me of the Youtube post called "Does it Blend". Iphones do, grapes, cubit zirconia, disposable lighters, etc...
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Well, there's always possible Zentraedi units that, for one reason or other, couldn't answer Dolza's call to the Earth meatgrinder, and in the decades since that fateful day, they've had to adapt and adjust to their circumstances...then along comes a group of people who look like Tirolians, fighting the Zents' known enemies....Shape-prejudice being what it is, who do you think they side with?

You can also throw in Macross 3's Marduk as a rogue Zentraedi faction, of Zentraedi who have been taken over by some alien group, or are even the elusive Disciples of Zor, come for revenge against the 'inheritors' of the old Tirolian Empire....
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taalismn wrote:Well, there's always possible Zentraedi units that, for one reason or other, couldn't answer Dolza's call to the Earth meatgrinder, and in the decades since that fateful day, they've had to adapt and adjust to their circumstances...then along comes a group of people who look like Tirolians, fighting the Zents' known enemies....Shape-prejudice being what it is, who do you think they side with?

You can also throw in Macross 3's Marduk as a rogue Zentraedi faction, of Zentraedi who have been taken over by some alien group, or are even the elusive Disciples of Zor, come for revenge against the 'inheritors' of the old Tirolian Empire....


Wait Macross 3? I thought it was 2? Or did I miss a stage somewhere? :D I usually keep the two series separate, Robotech is Robotech and Macross is Macross, I try to align the videos with the story line in the RPG books but in some cases that's nearly impossible as what's mentioned in the anime is, at times re-interpreted or ditched entirely for the RPG (at least as far as Robotech is concerned). So quite often I find myself tearing it up and going my own route.
When I use Macross II RPG books things go much easier as the info is much more consistent and flows better, no mystic mumbo jumbo about the Flower of Life to confuse things.
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el magico -- darklorddc wrote:
jaymz wrote:
Ninjapuppy wrote:How closely do GMs follow Robotech Cannon? or do You fire your Macross cannon and blow it all to bits?


Depends on if I want to play Robotech or Macross. If I am playing a Macross campaign then I'll use Macross Canon, if it's Robotech then I'll use Robotech canon. Unless of course you want to talk about he projet I just started based on a another thread that will link mechanoids, manhunter, robotech and macross altogether into one big canonical mess :D


If you haven't seen it before, I've done this on my Amalgaverse website. It's Robotech, Macross II, Manhunter, Mutants in Orbit with a dash of Phase World.

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Just slip down to the Amalgaverse link.

Just as a disclaimer: The Amalgaverse has no connection, at all, with the Robotech work I'm doing with Kevin on the new books.



Yeah I;ve seen it and it's nice work....mine is more of a millenia spanning mashed together using all of the above I stated as one coherent timeline....
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Send your players on trips through ALL of the above multi-verses...for real evil, capitalize on the similraities so they don't immediately know that they're in a new world line and not simply in another part of the same continiuum...
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^^That's just WRONG! :lol:
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Heeheehee... A trip through all the universes. That could be fun :)
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Then, for fun, start throwing in weird stuff...
Like Minmei as a vampire...
Khyron as a a flamboyantly gay galactic pirate....
The Masters(as radical social reformers) actually HELPING the Invid against the Haydonites...."Hey, we're here to gift you with a clean, environmentally safe, renewable, power source, and welcome you into a greater galactic community...Our Zentraedi social workers will be along to help rebuild your infrastructure! Oh, and there's a bunch of creepy guys in red robes who go around blowing up societies that use this miraculous power source, but don't mind them..."
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I have completely re-written the RT universe timeline. I have no care to relive the same story my players have played since 1989. We now play in a universe where the roll of bad guys are altered so the players get to learn something new each time we play.

Insert RT in blender, add 1 750ml bottle of favorite alcohol, 2 cups of ultra-violence, 20+ years of technological advance, 1 book of Ninjas & Superspies, almost 30 years of GI Joe vs. Cobra, set to blend for 30 seconds; when finished, pour into several tall glasses and serve. I'm thinking about posting some soon about this world, we'll see.
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Beatmeclever wrote:I have completely re-written the RT universe timeline. I have no care to relive the same story my players have played since 1989. We now play in a universe where the roll of bad guys are altered so the players get to learn something new each time we play.

Insert RT in blender, add 1 750ml bottle of favorite alcohol, 2 cups of ultra-violence, 20+ years of technological advance, 1 book of Ninjas & Superspies, almost 30 years of GI Joe vs. Cobra, set to blend for 30 seconds; when finished, pour into several tall glasses and serve. I'm thinking about posting some soon about this world, we'll see.


Sounds tasty...though for me, make that TWO 750ml bottles and some pixie dust...
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Gryphon wrote:Where are you going to get ground up pixies...oh, wait, I get it now!


Set out fly strips, bait with Disney merchandise.... :twisted:
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taalismn wrote:Then, for fun, start throwing in weird stuff...
Like Minmei as a vampire...
Khyron as a a flamboyantly gay galactic pirate....
The Masters(as radical social reformers) actually HELPING the Invid against the Haydonites...."Hey, we're here to gift you with a clean, environmentally safe, renewable, power source, and welcome you into a greater galactic community...Our Zentraedi social workers will be along to help rebuild your infrastructure! Oh, and there's a bunch of creepy guys in red robes who go around blowing up societies that use this miraculous power source, but don't mind them..."

Taalismn - did you hack my notes again? :lol: Great stuff as always from you.

Beatmeclever - I agree with everything but the GIJoe statement scares me. Major crashes and people taking hits then shrugging it off just bothers me. Wasn't there a rule here called the GIJoe rule that is also KC signature?

I don't run my games within the television show. The television show may be background, but the players story/game is completely based on other occurrences happening. The possibilities are much less limited than keeping in the structure of a show. I've run dimension hopping Robotech games also.
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My players were always lurking around in the background of big events or on the just-out-of-focus sidelines where they could do little contributing things like tripping up enemy reinforcements, foiling flanking attacks that might have changed the course of battle, and doing whatever scutwork they couldn't avoid getting handed(or finally got bored enough to accept...)...
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AuroraKet wrote:Heeheehee... A trip through all the universes. That could be fun :)

taalismn wrote:Send your players on trips through ALL of the above multi-verses...for real evil, capitalize on the similraities so they don't immediately know that they're in a new world line and not simply in another part of the same continiuum...

Done that a few times :D
it's great to see die-hard Robotechers go "whadda ya mean you don't have protoculture? A SOCIETY?! Y'mean the flower of life is just a metaphor? No slugs? OVERtechnology powered by microfusion? MADNESS I Say!!! :badbad: :frust: "
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Snuffy wrote:Beatmeclever - I agree with everything but the GIJoe statement scares me. Major crashes and people taking hits then shrugging it off just bothers me. Wasn't there a rule here called the GIJoe rule that is also KC signature?
Yeah, I saw that rule. My use of GI Joe is more based around the idea of a world-wide terrorist army trying repeatedly to wrest power away from the UEG (similar to the AUL only more like the comic book Cobra) and being defended against by a specially trained counter-terrorist force that is made up of the best soldiers from all of the militaries of the world.
Also, you have to remember, I said to add in the Ultra-Violence. When bad guys get shot down in my games, there's not too much chance they get to parachute to safety; if you shoot the bad guy well, he's probably dead; and if you get shot, you will be bleeding to death in a gutter somewhere or spending several months recovering in the hospital (and even then, you might have been injured too badly to return to combat duties or even to remain in the service).
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Beatmeclever wrote:Yeah, I saw that rule. My use of GI Joe is more based around the idea of a world-wide terrorist army trying repeatedly to wrest power away from the UEG (similar to the AUL only more like the comic book Cobra) and being defended against by a specially trained counter-terrorist force that is made up of the best soldiers from all of the militaries of the world.
Also, you have to remember, I said to add in the Ultra-Violence. When bad guys get shot down in my games, there's not too much chance they get to parachute to safety; if you shoot the bad guy well, he's probably dead; and if you get shot, you will be bleeding to death in a gutter somewhere or spending several months recovering in the hospital (and even then, you might have been injured too badly to return to combat duties or even to remain in the service).



Yep....Ultra-Violence kinda precludes the classic G.I. Joe 'Wow, we've just expended ten million dollars worth of ordnance, and nobody got hurt!"
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For all the Empires and Kingdoms,
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And the Turning of a Page"

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you havent lived untill you go up against an invid Comander that has had ~300 Bio energy points worth of upgrades(mega ultra upgrade on the beam weapons, Ultra upgrade on the missle launcher,Increased MDC, Regeneration super Chamelion skin and tendril injectors.
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Drakenred®™© wrote:you havent lived untill you go up against an invid Comander that has had ~300 Bio energy points worth of upgrades(mega ultra upgrade on the beam weapons, Ultra upgrade on the missle launcher,Increased MDC, Regeneration super Chamelion skin and tendril injectors.

Wait when did we add Splicers or TMNT to RT? ACK :eek: ook. Sorry my brain just trried to shuit down on me.
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spicers, I forgot about TMNT bioe lol

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I use RT/MacrossII in Rifts...nuff said.
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