Which Coalition Power Armors Do You Use?

Kagashi · Unread post by **Kagashi** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:11 am

Looking to see the most used CS power armor out of the Rifts WB11 CWC book that you would be most likely to use as a player.

I am just looking for your initial answer based off of what you would think you would want when you make a character. Not looking to see which power armor everybody thinks is better over the next one considering random factors (terrain, environment, opponent, etc...)

Eashamahel · Unread post by **Eashamahel** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:32 am

I voted Striker, which to me is the true 'Super' SAMAS, as it makes a heck of a lot more sense in every way.

Honestly, I would have chosen old-style SAMAS, but I somehow didn't notice it when i first voted, assuming it was made up entirely of new models.

PSI-Lence · Unread post by **PSI-Lence** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:38 am

old style

Mack · Unread post by **Mack** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:15 am

Toss up between the Super-Sam and the old style.

Slight001 · Unread post by **Slight001** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:48 pm

I like the Mauler... especially when you install a skellbot brain to control the plasma cannons.

Killer Cyborg · Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:28 pm

Never needed anything more than old-style SAMAS, IIRC.

Pepsi Jedi · Unread post by **Pepsi Jedi** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:25 pm

I wish there was a version for the FQ version. The Violator was simply awesome, but as there wasn't' I went with Light Assault. I like the look and the agility and what not. I love the mauler, but if I absolutely had to choose, being able to fly edges out by a small bit.

kirnos · Unread post by **kirnos** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 5:49 pm

Special Forces SAMAS, just because I really like the Coalition SF, and the SAMAS has a lot of missiles

Morik · Unread post by **Morik** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:24 pm

The Super-SAMUS it's just too good.

500 mph and over 400 MDC and stylish.

auyl · Unread post by **auyl** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:17 pm

I prefer the Glitter Boy Killer myself. High MDC, different array of weapons, extra set of weapon arms.

Too much goodness.

Alrik Vas · Unread post by **Alrik Vas** » Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:14 pm

This was a really tough choice. I love the GB killer for it's weapon versatility. I love the old school SAMAS because of nostalgia, the Super SAMAS is a hard to argue with based off of stats and I've always had a soft spot for the Terror Trooper's missile rifle.

THough in the end, the one that combines most of these traits is the Striker SAMAS. So i went with that.

FluffyHK · Unread post by **FluffyHK** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 2:05 am

The Striker by far. Perfect blend of old and new.

jaymz · Unread post by **jaymz** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:49 am

Striker.

Personally I think the job of the Super (Which seems to be air interception) is better handled is much better handled by a Sky Cycle or a dedicated aircraft ala Nightwing.

Eashamahel · Unread post by **Eashamahel** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:20 pm

The job of the Super Samas is to look cool and fight things like it's Wolverine with grenade launchers.

The job of the GB Killer is to point out rules holes and art inconsistencies.

Shorty Lickens · Fri Mar 07, 2014 9:56 pm

None unless im CS. Aint worth the 5 0 hasslin me.

In the CS i like classic SAMAS. Easy to repair and replace. Solid engines and combat systems.

drewkitty ~..~ · Fri Mar 07, 2014 10:20 pm

A modified PA-200. Mods being to remove the CS'ness of the styling.

Shorty Lickens · Sat Mar 08, 2014 5:54 pm

I should say that given the choice I will always take a flying SAMAS over a grounded version. The extra mobility is well worth the sacrifice in armor. The Super SAMAS can go a little faster and quite a bit higher than the others, that makes both assaults and escapes a great deal easier.

Oh, and its thrusters are very good for underwater use as well.

Shorty Lickens · Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:01 pm

drewkitty ~..~ wrote:A modified PA-200. Mods being to remove the CS'ness of the styling.

I guess that makes sense. CA power armor tends to have better systems and speed than similarly sized units from NG or other independent manufacturers.

Eashamahel · Unread post by **Eashamahel** » Sat Mar 08, 2014 11:08 pm

Shorty Lickens wrote:I should say that given the choice I will always take a flying SAMAS over a grounded version. The extra mobility is well worth the sacrifice in armor. The Super SAMAS can go a little faster and quite a bit higher than the others, that makes both assaults and escapes a great deal easier.

Oh, and its thrusters are very good for underwater use as well.

I actually forget exactly, but I am fairly certain the Super can go much faster than the others?

I was a big fan of the Smiling Jack for awhile, likely because I liked the Flying Titan so much when I first started playing (and still do). It's very comparable to the Original SAMAS in stats, just with the extra missiles.

Tor · Unread post by **Tor** » Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:41 am

If I can't import the flying glitter boy from NGR then I guess I'd go with the Super SAM. While even the original SAMAS is best, I see little reason to go for it when you can have something better, if we're talking about a prime choice for survival purposes.

mobuttu · Unread post by **mobuttu** » Tue Mar 11, 2014 8:25 am

For your convenience in SAMAS comparision, a couple of articles I made in my Rifts blog:

- About SAMAS hystory.
- And SAMAS comparision charts.

(As always, click on the upper-right button for an automatic google translation).

Colonel_Tetsuya · Tue Mar 11, 2014 8:48 am

Tor wrote:If I can't import the flying glitter boy from NGR then I guess I'd go with the Super SAM. While even the original SAMAS is best, I see little reason to go for it when you can have something better, if we're talking about a prime choice for survival purposes.

Apart from the higher MDC, id call the Striker more survivable any day of the week simply due to its superior mix of armaments and smaller size. The Super SAM's suicidally short ranged armaments (considering its assigned role) make it a total non-starter for me.

ffranceschi · Unread post by **ffranceschi** » Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:49 pm

For playing: PA-09A Super SAMAS (my vote).

For how it looks: PA-06A SAMAS (old style).

Tor · Unread post by **Tor** » Tue Mar 11, 2014 7:04 pm

The Strike is great for 1 on 1 but I don't know if I'll have access to missile re-loading, the Super's unlimited energy weapons would be better for sustained combat.

Basically the strat would be to just fire at your missile volleys until you ran out, then close range.

Shorty Lickens · Tue Mar 11, 2014 7:24 pm

Tor wrote:The Strike is great for 1 on 1 but I don't know if I'll have access to missile re-loading, the Super's unlimited energy weapons would be better for sustained combat.

Basically the strat would be to just fire at your missile volleys until you ran out, then close range.

Every battle I've been in was solved long before I could unload all my missiles. The problem is refilling them after the fight. You need to find a seller, pay a ridiculous fee, and hope they have the type you want.
Most jobs your team pulls wont cover the inordinate costs. Thats why plasma and particle beams are more popular.

ffranceschi · Unread post by **ffranceschi** » Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:41 am

Shorty Lickens wrote:
Tor wrote:The Strike is great for 1 on 1 but I don't know if I'll have access to missile re-loading, the Super's unlimited energy weapons would be better for sustained combat.

Basically the strat would be to just fire at your missile volleys until you ran out, then close range.

Every battle I've been in was solved long before I could unload all my missiles. The problem is refilling them after the fight. You need to find a seller, pay a ridiculous fee, and hope they have the type you want.
Most jobs your team pulls wont cover the inordinate costs. Thats why plasma and particle beams are more popular.

These are CS Power Armors and for the CS I don´t think the "missile cost" is an issue (at this level). So, IMHO, you should separate if you are using them as a Merc (expensive) or as a CS RPA (free).

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