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Judging by the only cannon exsample of a dragon demigod, Styphonal in Atlantis, they have normal but superior attributes for a dragon of their type and maximum possible MDC. I would presume to say that they would roll as normal but have extrodanary minimums in all catagories.
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Since a demigod is the result of a deity mating with a human being (in mythoi anyway), I would think it stands to reason that the demigods could also breed with human beings. In that case, I'd use stats in between that of the demigod and that of the human being that participated in the 'making'.

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You could always use the Cosmo-Knight rule on stats:

Roll up the stats for your "mated with" creature and then roll up a standard Demi-Gods stats and pick whichever is HIGHER for each stat!

Although, I use this example as the exception moreso than the rule. The Cosmo-Knight is the only character I know of that even HAS this option available to it in the first place!
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Here's one; A demi-god Sea Titan, in this instance I'd use the Sea Titan abilities and stats as baseline then add the Demi-God abilities on top. In the end you get a being who is already effectively immortal, an MD being, able to survive w/out eating or breathing and able to dive up to a depth of nearly 1 mile under water (IIRC), and a higher chance of being a Master level psion, then you add the Demi-God magical abilities and you've got a truly strong character. :twisted: Talk about Munchkin!!!
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keir451 wrote:Here's one; A demi-god Sea Titan, in this instance I'd use the Sea Titan abilities and stats as baseline then add the Demi-God abilities on top. In the end you get a being who is already effectively immortal, an MD being, able to survive w/out eating or breathing and able to dive up to a depth of nearly 1 mile under water (IIRC), and a higher chance of being a Master level psion, then you add the Demi-God magical abilities and you've got a truly strong character. :twisted: Talk about Munchkin!!!


If you want to go munchkin, go one step further: sea Titan Demi-God with the Mystic option (remember that if you choose the spell caster ability you get EVERY SPELL of your level and lower) who also becomes a Sea Inquisitor O.C.C. It's broken. Very broken. I admit that... But by all rights (somehow, miraculously) STILL legal!
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Emperor Ryu wrote:The only thing I can offer right now, is to refer to the Rifts Conversion Book 2: Pantheons of the Megaverse Book, page 17, and find the N.P.C. examples, and adjust accordingly along the guidelines.

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The RCB2 is one of the places where there is the DemiGod is detailed as class. The other place is in the HU2 main book in the Mega-Hero section of the book.

While the rifts class is a bit static in it's stats, the one in the hu2 book basically modifies the base stats of the mundane races stats and abilities.
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keir451 wrote:Here's one; A demi-god Sea Titan, in this instance I'd use the Sea Titan abilities and stats as baseline then add the Demi-God abilities on top. In the end you get a being who is already effectively immortal, an MD being, able to survive w/out eating or breathing and able to dive up to a depth of nearly 1 mile under water (IIRC), and a higher chance of being a Master level psion, then you add the Demi-God magical abilities and you've got a truly strong character. :twisted: Talk about Munchkin!!!


If you want to go munchkin, go one step further: sea Titan Demi-God with the Mystic option (remember that if you choose the spell caster ability you get EVERY SPELL of your level and lower) who also becomes a Sea Inquisitor O.C.C. It's broken. Very broken. I admit that... But by all rights (somehow, miraculously) STILL legal!

Yep! And I used to rage against the machine of Munchkinism, now look how far I've fallen. :cry: :P
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Hmph...I still like the the Fire Warlock Scarecrow (or is it Bursters that are immune to fire?).

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Drewkitty actually brings up a good point too. Using the demigod stats in PU2 would alleviate this problem. Even though it's not originally RIFTS, it's easily converted (the conversion is there too).

Just roll up a regular species and apply the boosts that are given in that demigod section in PU2. Easy fix.
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keir451 wrote:Here's one; A demi-god Sea Titan, in this instance I'd use the Sea Titan abilities and stats as baseline then add the Demi-God abilities on top. In the end you get a being who is already effectively immortal, an MD being, able to survive w/out eating or breathing and able to dive up to a depth of nearly 1 mile under water (IIRC), and a higher chance of being a Master level psion, then you add the Demi-God magical abilities and you've got a truly strong character. :twisted: Talk about Munchkin!!!




Except the Sea Titan genetics over-rule those of the Demi-god; so you're left with a Sea Titan.
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Emperor Ryu wrote:
Anti wrote:Thanks, the HU2 book answer was great, unfortunately I don't have that book :(


If you do get the book, let us know how it is for you. :)

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Vrykolas2k wrote:
keir451 wrote:Here's one; A demi-god Sea Titan, in this instance I'd use the Sea Titan abilities and stats as baseline then add the Demi-God abilities on top. In the end you get a being who is already effectively immortal, an MD being, able to survive w/out eating or breathing and able to dive up to a depth of nearly 1 mile under water (IIRC), and a higher chance of being a Master level psion, then you add the Demi-God magical abilities and you've got a truly strong character. :twisted: Talk about Munchkin!!!




Except the Sea Titan genetics over-rule those of the Demi-god; so you're left with a Sea Titan.


I have not read the Sea Titan in a while, which section does it mention this under? Not arguing mind you I just somehow thought the Demigod DNA over-ruled others is all.
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For one thing it is not DNA that give it's offspring its supernaturalness, it is the part of it spirt/self that combines with the life/spirt of the other parent that gives such SN attributes to the offspring. This is for both ST's and DG's.
This is basic stuff. :roll:

It would take a GM's ruling about which side of the mating would be dominate to settle the dispute for your own groups. Because unless KS publishes a canon ruling about it, any debate will just stay in the realm of house rules.

I would say that between the two options presented that the deific supernaturalness would be dominant due to the part that it came from a god.
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drewkitty ~..~ wrote:For one thing it is not DNA that give it's offspring its supernaturalness, it is the part of it spirt/self that combines with the life/spirt of the other parent that gives such SN attributes to the offspring. This is for both ST's and DG's.
This is basic stuff. :roll:

It would take a GM's ruling about which side of the mating would be dominate to settle the dispute for your own groups. Because unless KS publishes a canon ruling about it, any debate will just stay in the realm of house rules.

I would say that between the two options presented that the deific supernaturalness would be dominant due to the part that it came from a god.


Me asking Vrykolas a non argumentative non challenging honest question entitles me to an eyeroll? Seriously? What an ass. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Preacher wrote:
drewkitty ~..~ wrote:For one thing it is not DNA that give it's offspring its supernaturalness, it is the part of it spirt/self that combines with the life/spirt of the other parent that gives such SN attributes to the offspring. This is for both ST's and DG's.
This is basic stuff. :roll:

It would take a GM's ruling about which side of the mating would be dominate to settle the dispute for your own groups. Because unless KS publishes a canon ruling about it, any debate will just stay in the realm of house rules.

I would say that between the two options presented that the deific supernaturalness would be dominant due to the part that it came from a god.


Me asking Vrykolas a non argumentative non challenging honest question entitles me to an eyeroll? Seriously? What an ass. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:



Agreed.

To answer, I got confused between Sea Titan and Amazon (been awhile since I read either description as well).
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If it is to be an ass to be blunt about the truth then I would rather be an ass then a lier. :crane:
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But when you are talking about supernatural beings you are talking about how the soul of the being affects the world, not about genetics.
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