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when do reincarnated mages register as magic?

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:39 pm
by Axelmania
If you knew magic in your past life would 'sense magic' and similar pick up on you if your memories of how to cast magic had not returned?

Re: when do reincarnated mages register as magic?

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 12:07 am
by drewkitty ~..~
Rifter 1, page 117 is the only published text that covers this outside the text about enlighten immortals in the MC book..

Re: when do reincarnated mages register as magic?

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:47 pm
by The Beast
Axelmania wrote:If you knew magic in your past life would 'sense magic' and similar pick up on you if your memories of how to cast magic had not returned?


I'd go with no, but only if the current life hasn't built up a large PPE base and the method of reincarnation doesn't make the person a creature of magic. Now once the memories return, I'd also say the person would have to rebuild their PPE base before being able to be picked up by Sense Magic.

drewkitty ~..~ wrote:Rifter 1, page 117 is the only published text that covers this outside the text about enlighten immortals in the MC book..


Are you sure you're not thinking about Rifter 3, page 55? Because what you pointed out seems to be more for BTS, and doesn't feel like an enlightened immortal to me.

Re: when do reincarnated mages register as magic?

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:31 pm
by drewkitty ~..~
The Beast wrote:
drewkitty ~..~ wrote:Rifter 1, page 117 is the only published text that covers this outside the text about enlighten immortals in the MC book..


Are you sure you're not thinking about Rifter 3, page 55? Because what you pointed out seems to be more for BTS, and doesn't feel like an enlightened immortal to me.

What you pointed out is a part of a large article of a conversion to rifts of the stuff in the MC book. As such I mentioned both 'the canon' for N&S/MC and 'the rifter optional'. Each with it's own flavor. And the class in the rifter 1 article actually looks like it fits the question being asked. Since the OP didn't mention the EI.

Besides, this is the N&S/MC forum. So why would I bring up something meant for Rifts when I mentioned the canon original? :-?

Re: when do reincarnated mages register as magic?

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:27 am
by Axelmania
Beast I don't believe the non-canon Rifts suggestion for MDC Enlightened Immortals in Rifter 3 actually addressed anything like this.

Drew the Transcendent by James Calder (though non-canon) does seem like neat guidelines for randomly determining past lives, but it doesn't really cover the discovery of memories over time.

Where it differs is permanence. Enlightened Immortals keep the knowledge they regain but:
    Once the danger has passed, the character suddenly forgets the knowledge and cannot recreate it

So even if you temporarily registered as magic when you cast Globe of Daylight, you lose that spell after and might cease to qualify as magic.

Beast about the 'enough PPE' thing, kids generally have a lot of it so that's the major concern here. I'm not even sure it's possible for kids to have less PPE than the amount you keep behind if you transfer it into other peoples to avoid detection as mage... for get name of spell which does that.

Re: when do reincarnated mages register as magic?

Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 2:12 pm
by Borast
No.
Sense Magic would detect "Magic."
Unless your reincarnated mage is now a creature of magic, or supernatural creature (which can only be traced to a "general" area).
A human mage with the maximum possible PPE would be undetectable until he cast a spell, at which point the SPELL would be detected.

If your reincarnated mage regains the KNOWLEDGE of how to cast spells, does not mean (s)he *can* cast spells. The mind knows how to do it, but the body can not *yet* do it. You'll have to re-train the body (i.e.: grow your PPE).

Re: when do reincarnated mages register as magic?

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 11:15 am
by 13eowulf
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