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something from my notes, written back when i was planning a Reconstruction era book proposal. never got around to stating this up properly, might tweak the design some (it probably would benefit from being a bit longer in length, aesthetically, since right now it is darn close to a cube) for my website. certainly it is an interesting idea.

the basic idea here is that something like the GMU wouldn't exist in a vacuum. there would be other types of 'megavehicles' that came before it as the technologies and designs were worked out. this is especially true for the 'light cruiser on wheels' version from UEEF marines. which i generally would peg as a GMU-03 or maybe 04. depending on how many other early models you might want to introduce.

this one is the original concept, basically taking something akin to the Shuttle Crawler Transporter, with a barebones mobile base on top. as a vehicle it would be slow and need escort by Destroids and ground vehicles, but it would be useful as a mobile command vehicle and providing repair and rearming facilities in more remote areas.


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GMU-01-Mk.I
Length: 150ft (45.7m)
Width: 114ft (35m)
Height: 76ft (23.2m)
Mass: 2,700 tons

Speed: 30mph.
Powerplant: Compact Fusion Reactor

Weaponry:
4x Mk.17 Anti-armor missile launcher (6 SRM turret)
4x CIWS-L-20 Point Defense Laser Turrets (20mm pulse laser)
2x Mk.18 Anti-aircraft Missile Launcher

layout:
4 motive assemblies (2 treads on each, independently steerable)
above them a large boxy vehicle. lowest deck is engineering spaces. command/steering is forward top deck. below the command deck is several decks of crew spaces, including several bunkrooms, a small kitchen and messhall, medical bay, and . a 2 door mecha bay is aft, large enough to fit 2 1st Gen destroids or 4 smaller Battloids. the bay includes a mecha repair alcove and refueling and rearming stations. amidships is a cargo storage area/light vehicle storage with a door on each side of the vehicle. The top of vehicle has a Helipad, crane, and weapons emplacements. Along the sides of the vehicle are partly recessed walkways with safety railings, including stations for pintle mount infantry support weapons for additional defense.

Variants:
Mk.II - one off test bed for an anti-ship weapon emplacement. replaced cargobay and mecha bay with a turret assembly for a HPC-SC220-A Double Barrelled Particle Cannon (same guns as on an ARMD). proved too unreliable for further production.

Mk.III - Motive System Testbed/proof of concept vehicle. replaced independent tread system with 8 solid Wheels. saw the "bridge" moved to the right front, and redesigned the interior to put mecha bay with hatch on the front of the vehicle and the bay taking up the entire left half of the vehicle. (basically duplicates the rough layout of the later GMU-titan, on a much smaller scale)
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Makes perfect sense....we know that the UEDF had some fair-sized ground crawlers for field-launching VFs into orbit, and for retrieving destroids and other mecha. And having something big enough to cart off a MAC would be handier than having to repair the thing onsite where it's vulnerable.
Certainly finding powerplants wouldn't be a problem, given the work already done for heavy destroids, so powerplant design's not going pose any difficulties.
And all that heavy-duty salvage work during the Reconstruction? Perfect opportunity to field-test the new design(Mars-like terrain without having to leave a hospitable atmosphere).
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I agree that there probably are early versions of the GMU, or at least elements of the GMU. In some respects the 1E Land Crawlwer (Africa Campaign) would make a good inspiration for the GMU.

I would suspect that early GMU's likely are based on the M100 platform (Macross Saga SB pg119-20manga). By dimensions it can already carry 2-3 Destroid/Battloids (but not a mac-2) by cargo mass it can carry at least 3 (but again no mac-2). This just requires providing an enclosed cargo hold, possibly do an extension so you can support more units in terms of space, arming it, and providing space for additional support personnel. If you upgrade the powerplant you can probably expand the capabilities.

One Question that comes with all GMU/GMU-relatives is: how to you get it to areas where you need it? You can't expect to drive it, such a trip would take to long.
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ShadowLogan wrote:I agree that there probably are early versions of the GMU, or at least elements of the GMU. In some respects the 1E Land Crawlwer (Africa Campaign) would make a good inspiration for the GMU.

"Land Tank!"

You beat me to it. It's not like Robotech the RPG doesn't have a history of giant vehicles. The GMU's just another one.
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ShadowLogan wrote:I agree that there probably are early versions of the GMU, or at least elements of the GMU. In some respects the 1E Land Crawlwer (Africa Campaign) would make a good inspiration for the GMU.

I would suspect that early GMU's likely are based on the M100 platform (Macross Saga SB pg119-20manga). By dimensions it can already carry 2-3 Destroid/Battloids (but not a mac-2) by cargo mass it can carry at least 3 (but again no mac-2). This just requires providing an enclosed cargo hold, possibly do an extension so you can support more units in terms of space, arming it, and providing space for additional support personnel. If you upgrade the powerplant you can probably expand the capabilities.

One Question that comes with all GMU/GMU-relatives is: how to you get it to areas where you need it? You can't expect to drive it, such a trip would take to long.


The old Eternity line comics had the early Southern Cross using big LTA zeps to tote around heavy equipment; that's a possibility...if you've got local air superiority.
Otherwise...well, there's maybe anti-grav-equipped versions of the Daedalus, or modified Zentraedi Reentry Pods.
By the time of the Sentinels, they've likely got Garfish variants for carrying GMUs.
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found the quick&crude concept art image of the GMU-01-Mk.I i did.. one reason i was considering making it longer was to reduce this 'box on treads' feel, since i couldn't really reduce the height much (not if i wanted enclosed mecha gantries on the back)

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taalismn wrote:
ShadowLogan wrote:I agree that there probably are early versions of the GMU, or at least elements of the GMU. In some respects the 1E Land Crawlwer (Africa Campaign) would make a good inspiration for the GMU.

I would suspect that early GMU's likely are based on the M100 platform (Macross Saga SB pg119-20manga). By dimensions it can already carry 2-3 Destroid/Battloids (but not a mac-2) by cargo mass it can carry at least 3 (but again no mac-2). This just requires providing an enclosed cargo hold, possibly do an extension so you can support more units in terms of space, arming it, and providing space for additional support personnel. If you upgrade the powerplant you can probably expand the capabilities.

One Question that comes with all GMU/GMU-relatives is: how to you get it to areas where you need it? You can't expect to drive it, such a trip would take to long.


The old Eternity line comics had the early Southern Cross using big LTA zeps to tote around heavy equipment; that's a possibility...if you've got local air superiority.
Otherwise...well, there's maybe anti-grav-equipped versions of the Daedalus, or modified Zentraedi Reentry Pods.
By the time of the Sentinels, they've likely got Garfish variants for carrying GMUs.

The Zeps also where adapted for the Novels during that period.

Though if you use those other platforms don't you run into issues like: "If I have these why am I using a GMU?". Then again I've never been able to quite see the need for the GMU, even back in the day. I would think if you needed a mobile base, there would be easier ways to go about it.
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ShadowLogan wrote:[
Though if you use those other platforms don't you run into issues like: "If I have these why am I using a GMU?". Then again I've never been able to quite see the need for the GMU, even back in the day. I would think if you needed a mobile base, there would be easier ways to go about it.


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"Still doesn't solve how you get it places, like overseas."
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@tal.
I really don't see its value as a Tank, maybe an Infantry Fighting Vehicle for Destroid/Battloids, but not a Tank. The fact it's BFG is an beam weapon would limit its role to direct fire support to.

As I said there are probably easier ways to go about it like a modified Horizon-T (NOTE: 1E used, I do not have 2E stats for either). One Bunker on the H-T carries the same heavy mecha numbers, and the H-T has two, so you could use one for heavy mecha and the other for Cyclone (doubling the units here). Replace the A-B with a specialized C&C module and other aspects the H-T isn't setup for. Slap on a few LRM launchers from the Phalanax unit (LRMs are LRMs), and mount the BFG from the GMU on top and maybe have the bunkers/landing gear modified with treads/wheels to make repositioning easier on the ground and you have essentially the GMU. The extra weight of the BFG is the only area I'm not sure if the H-T has the excess capacity. This is more of basic back of the envolope concept note than anything specifically worked out mind you, but it would seem to result in a better "mobile base" than the GMU.

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Have you looked at the old AMR-10 (1E Sentinels pg109) as a sort of GMU? If nothing else recycle the image, but go with a scale up version (since at the size listed it really isn't good for anything other than maybe ASC units (REF/RDF all are to big to fit in the bay)
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ShadowLogan wrote:@tal.
@glitterboy2098
Have you looked at the old AMR-10 (1E Sentinels pg109) as a sort of GMU? If nothing else recycle the image, but go with a scale up version (since at the size listed it really isn't good for anything other than maybe ASC units (REF/RDF all are to big to fit in the bay)

given it, the MOL-3 Mole and the forklifts all originated as background vehicles in the southern cross segment of the show, i'm not surprised it would work best for ASC stuff. since in the show it appears to be an excavation vehicle rather than a transport, i'd assume its use as a mecha recovery vehicle would be mostly to pick up the bits and pieces of wreckage blown off in battle, while a flatbed truck hauls the more intact stuff off.


taalismn wrote:
ShadowLogan wrote:[
Though if you use those other platforms don't you run into issues like: "If I have these why am I using a GMU?". Then again I've never been able to quite see the need for the GMU, even back in the day. I would think if you needed a mobile base, there would be easier ways to go about it.


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"Still doesn't solve how you get it places, like overseas."
"Bah, same way you were planning on carrying that waddling giant duck of a 'destroid'."


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While making the GMU based on purely Earth designs is possible... There might be other options. The GMU is really a retrofitted Zentreadi ground support vehicle, or based on a Zentreadi support vehicle. Or have their origins in an Earth designed vehicle to transport Zentreadi giants around during reconstruction (a Zentreadi at Giant size is practically the same size as some human mecha).

While the aesthetics of the GMU in Sentinels doesn't seem Zentreadi, the Zentreadi non-mechanized infantry really has no means of transport w/n the Zentreadi TO&E. And before someone mentions the Shuttle Pods, or other flying vehicles we see. These are mostly air-mobile assets when compared to modern military TO&E vehicles (and we still use ground vehicles), nothing like conventional options aside from their hover platform (which is very exposed). Now the Zentreadi might not employ foot soldiers in combat (I know we don't see it until Reconstruction period).
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ShadowLogan wrote:While making the GMU based on purely Earth designs is possible... There might be other options. The GMU is really a retrofitted Zentreadi ground support vehicle, or based on a Zentreadi support vehicle. Or have their origins in an Earth designed vehicle to transport Zentreadi giants around during reconstruction (a Zentreadi at Giant size is practically the same size as some human mecha).

While the aesthetics of the GMU in Sentinels doesn't seem Zentreadi, the Zentreadi non-mechanized infantry really has no means of transport w/n the Zentreadi TO&E. And before someone mentions the Shuttle Pods, or other flying vehicles we see. These are mostly air-mobile assets when compared to modern military TO&E vehicles (and we still use ground vehicles), nothing like conventional options aside from their hover platform (which is very exposed). Now the Zentreadi might not employ foot soldiers in combat (I know we don't see it until Reconstruction period).


True. There are hints of support vehicles in the hangar scene aboard Breetai's flagship, but not ground vehicles. I was rather under the impression that the Zentraedi HATE static ground operations, and if they needed to set up a ground base, it was simply easier to land a ship and let it serve as a temporary bivuoc. Then I imagine they used lots of Zentraedi muscle to move supplies around, or extendable conveyors.
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given the size, the GMU would be a terrible zentraedi vehicle. it would only be able to carry a handful of zents in body armor. the 2nd ed one from UEEF MArines is about the same size as the zent landing pod, but with much less internal space.
the 1st edition version was smaller still (yet was supposed to house the same amount of stuff.. HG's notes for the old sentinels were crazy!)
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taalismn wrote:True. There are hints of support vehicles in the hangar scene aboard Breetai's flagship, but not ground vehicles. I was rather under the impression that the Zentraedi HATE static ground operations, and if they needed to set up a ground base, it was simply easier to land a ship and let it serve as a temporary bivuoc. Then I imagine they used lots of Zentraedi muscle to move supplies around, or extendable conveyors.

Even if the Zentreadi HATE static ground operations, having some form of support vehicles would seem to make sense. We know they have some type of hoverplatform for transport at Dolza's base for example. Even if the Zentreadi don't have such vehicles, the UEDF during reconstruction might have developed such a vehicle(s) as a more practical method to moving giant soliders around on the battlefield than having them march/walk or using aerospace vehicles. And once the UEDF has the basic vehicle, they could look for other uses.

glitterboy2098 wrote:given the size, the GMU would be a terrible zentraedi vehicle. it would only be able to carry a handful of zents in body armor. the 2nd ed one from UEEF MArines is about the same size as the zent landing pod, but with much less internal space.
the 1st edition version was smaller still (yet was supposed to house the same amount of stuff.. HG's notes for the old sentinels were crazy!)

Personally I don't think the UEEF depicted GMU is itself a retro-fitted Zentreadi vehicle (or even easily rectoned into such), but rather derived from one (weather that vehicle's origin is Zentreadi or human is pure speculation). The asthetics and layout just all seem "wrong" compared to various Zentreadi platforms to date in RT.

For the sake of argument lets assume that a Zentreadi Troop Transport ground vehicle exits (lets skip over if terrans built it for them, or the masters). How big would it be, how many troops is it carrying, what are its armaments (if any)? And if such a vehicle existed, how could humans make use of it? While I don't think we could answer the first three questions with any degree of accuracy. I do think that just in terms of concept, we can certainly layout how humans could utilize such a vehicle: they could replace a Zentradi trooper with a mecha pretty easily, and we know they can convert giant-to-human scale spaces and such converted space would offer up far more room for extra capabilities to be packed in for the human-scale version than the giant. Given the smaller stature of most post 1st gen designs (AFAIK), that would also free up space for other uses (storage, servicing).

Just look at the old Z-3 from 1E Sentinels. It originally had a giant size crew of 3, with room for a VF-1 in battloid to walk around the cockpit. It was converted for a crew of 4-12 humans, a bay with just as many Cyclones (what mode isn't clear), a 10x10x10ft storage bay is noted as part of the conversion (control setup seems implied). Nothing else is detailed about the internal accommodations, but I think it's pretty clear we are looking at a rather under utilized space considering you could probably fit all of that into the ONE crew station, never mind the other 2 and the walking space.
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ShadowLogan wrote:[
Even if the Zentreadi HATE static ground operations, having some form of support vehicles would seem to make sense. We know they have some type of hoverplatform for transport at Dolza's base for example. Even if the Zentreadi don't have such vehicles, the UEDF during reconstruction might have developed such a vehicle(s) as a more practical method to moving giant soliders around on the battlefield than having them march/walk or using aerospace vehicles. And once the UEDF has the basic vehicle, they could look for other uses..


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ShadowLogan wrote:Just look at the old Z-3 from 1E Sentinels. It originally had a giant size crew of 3, with room for a VF-1 in battloid to walk around the cockpit. It was converted for a crew of 4-12 humans, a bay with just as many Cyclones (what mode isn't clear), a 10x10x10ft storage bay is noted as part of the conversion (control setup seems implied). Nothing else is detailed about the internal accommodations, but I think it's pretty clear we are looking at a rather under utilized space considering you could probably fit all of that into the ONE crew station, never mind the other 2 and the walking space.

Agreed the Z-3 was majorly underutilized.. since the Quel-Quallie Theatre Scout is nearly the same size as the Garfish, and actually has its own mecha bay able to carry several pods/power armor suits in addition to the spacious three man crew cabin.

i'm all for the UEEF re-purposing zentraedi hardware (We know the UEEF had a small fleet of zent ships still in 2017, and since earth never builds anything close to the same size later (or has anything comparable to the Reflex cannon's on the ones we see in that fleet until the 2040's), it makes sense they'd keep them around. i also suspect they had more variety of ships than just those too. when you have 5 million ships to start, odds are quite a few survived the battle.)

the Quel-Quallie Theatre Scout is a fold capable ship,only a bit smaller than the smallest earth warship of the time (the banshee class light cruiser.. remember the garfish didn't show up until after 2030), and would already be optimized for recon use rather than straight combat like the Banshee. combined with the large hold/mechabay, why not rip out the zentraedi fittings in the crew space and fit in proper decks and quarters? you could get a very useful long range scout ship that way. one that could easily also have had the mechabay refit to carry a few earth vehicles. (ghost drones or VF-1's perhaps for space defense.)

as far as the GMU goes though, i don't think the Zentraedi had anything similar. between the wheels and the shape it just screams 'human!'.. and the zentraedi don't need a mobile base system like that, they are a marine force operating off their ships almost exclusively. heck, the only reason they did any sort of fighting on a planet at all was because they were under orders not to just blast the SDF-1 to scrap from orbit. their normal Modus operandi seems to be a blitzkreig of naval bombardment and overwhelming rapid mecha strikes from orbit (as we saw with the initial attack on earth and their attack on macross Island.)
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glitterboy2098 wrote:Agreed the Z-3 was majorly underutilized.. since the Quel-Quallie Theatre Scout is nearly the same size as the Garfish, and actually has its own mecha bay able to carry several pods/power armor suits in addition to the spacious three man crew cabin.

At a quick count the Z-3 could comfortably house approximatly 15 UEDF:RDF sized battloids (6 in the bay, 3 crew, 2x3 crew escape capsule minimum, minimum 2 from walk around room shown). If we are talking the smaller UEDF:ASC sized battloids (or PA) that number will go up, and if you can squeeze in a multi-deck setup.

glitterboy2098 wrote:We know the UEEF had a small fleet of zent ships still in 2017, and since earth never builds anything close to the same size later

Not true. The Tokugawa is ~1.1-1.2km long, the SDF-3 is approx. 1.2-1.7km long, the SDF-4 is 1.3km long, and the Ark Angel is 2.5km long, and then there are the Nuetron-S missiles (which are converted colony vessels that dwarf the Ikazuchi tender .7km long, looking to be about x3-4 the length, since they are the largest vessels man built they likely lean more toward the x4 to allow them to be bigger than the AA). This puts Earth's shipbuilding capability in the Zentreadi Gunship (1.1km long) and Zentreadi Destroyer (2.3km long) category of ship range. Earth hasn't reached the Flagship (4km long), Carrier (3km long) category of ship yet. The Command Ship type overall length has likely been reached (2.7km) with the Angel Class Colony ship, never mind the individual forward/rear sections. And the Tristar, (maybe the) ARMD, and Shimakazee ships are in or close to the Scout Ship (~.5km range).

glitterboy2098 wrote:the Quel-Quallie Theatre Scout is a fold capable ship

No it is not Fold Capable. The Quel-Quallie Theatre Scout is also know as the Cyclops, and repurposed in the old 1E as the Z-3. At no time that I am aware of, or can think of in canon, does the Cyclops have a Fold system. I think you might be thinking of the Zentreadi Scout Ship (Tou Redir @uRRG, or Salon in 1E, not sure what HG is currently calling it beyond Scout)

glitterboy2098 wrote:as far as the GMU goes though, i don't think the Zentraedi had anything similar. between the wheels and the shape it just screams 'human!'.. and the zentraedi don't need a mobile base system like that, they are a marine force operating off their ships almost exclusively. heck, the only reason they did any sort of fighting on a planet at all was because they were under orders not to just blast the SDF-1 to scrap from orbit. their normal Modus operandi seems to be a blitzkreig of naval bombardment and overwhelming rapid mecha strikes from orbit (as we saw with the initial attack on earth and their attack on macross Island.)

I agree the Zentreadi aren't going to have a mobile base system like the GMU, but with body armored troops it seems plausible though they could be deployed and would need some form of ground transport to really keep up with any mecha forces (which might not be practical for all surface operations). They might even want something to rapidly transport troops around the ship to counter boarding parties.

IIRC we don't see any wheeled or tracked vehicles of Zentreadi/Tirolian origin either, so if they do have a ground support vehicle(s) it likely is a hovercraft. That of course assumes that a Zentreadi transport is of Tirolian origin, if the UEDF developed purpose built conventional vehicles to help transport the giant Zentreadi around*, they might adopt wheel or tracked designs however (as hovercraft technology in this period doesn't appear to be very mature). Which could lead to them being re-purposed or variants being constructed with micronians in mind that lead to the GMU down the road.

*IINM the highest base Spd attribute at giant size in the 2E is 30 (not counting skills) or around 20mph (per the attribute/mph-kph chart). The PE attribute also determines how long they can do this. This would require the UEDF having some type of transport available to move them around easily, and it probably stands to reason there going to be times where walk/run is to slow, but a shuttle would be impractical for the distance involved.
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Re: something from my notes - Reconstruction Era - GMU-01-Mk

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Thing is we never see foot infantry in offensive combat prior to the malcontent period. Prior to the defeat of the grand fleet, infantry forces are only seen aboard their ships. Offensive forces are always pods or PA, which can move quite quickly on foot, jumping, or outright flight. And if they did need to move a force of ground units rapidly they can use the reentry pods as airmobile transports.
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